Terrorists are terrorists

Let’s get one thing perfectly clear. Terrorists are terrorists. Regular readers know as an atheist I don’t have a lot of tolerance for religions. I acknowledge there are a lot of very good religious people but I believe those people are good people with or without religion: they would be great humanists. Religion didn’t make them good people.

Since the terror alert was raised by Mr Abbott some Australians seem to think that is a licence to attack innocent people. This has to stop. Here are just two examples of what is happening now.

Or this on Facebook:


I have my own personal opinions about Islam and the objectives of The Prophet. I’m not going into detail as I am far from a scholar on the subject but in summary I see the development of Islam was, AT THE TIME, an attempt to advance human society in the region of origin and enhance the status of women. For the time, remember, in historical context. In SOME areas of the world, tradition has been merged with Islam and The Prophet’s objectives effectively lost. Maajid Nawaz wrote a very good article in January this year: Why I’m speaking up for Islam against the loudmouths who have hijacked it. To me, Islam does currently seem to be stuck in a bit of a time warp, but other religions have been in the past too.

There are certainly some leaders of the Islamic faith who have said some really, really stupid and inciteful things and who should, in my view, have been deported. On the other hand, there are Christian leaders who have made equally appalling statements, here and overseas. It seems when it is a Christian nutter, we shrug and think he is a nutter as an individual. When there is a nutter linked to Islam, we suddenly blame the entire Islamic population. The Saudi Arabian ban on women driving is nonsense.  Yet in Australia we have a Royal Commission into the abuse of children by various bodies, not one of them Islamic as far as I know. None of this makes your co-worker, your neighbour or your family  members either terrorists or child abusers. Terrorists are the sort of people that would be terrorists irrespective of the existance or otherwise of religion. If they weren’t co-opting the name of Islam, it would be something else.

I have been puzzled for some time over the attitude of Israel and the constant abuse of the Palestinians. Given what the Jews experienced during the Holocaust I cannot fathom how they can be so harsh to another ethnic group. It is beyond my comprehension. I mention this to remind readers there have been and are conflicts in the world which seem to have no rhyme or reason. Humans are a complicated species. More than any other living creature on this small planet, humans seem to delight in fighting and the destruction of their own. Not all of course, but enough of our number to make life miserable for many others.

ISIS and Boko Haram are two current examples of out of control humans.

Leading Islamic scholars are taking action:

Signatories including Mohammed Abbasi, from the Association of British Muslims, and Amjad Malik QC, president of the Association of Muslim Lawyers, write: “We do not believe the terror group responsible should be given the credence and standing they seek by styling themselves Islamic State. It is neither Islamic, nor is it a state.

“The group has no standing with faithful Muslims, nor among the international community of nations. It clearly will never accept the obligations that any legitimate state has, including the responsibility to protect citizens and uphold human rights.

Six senior Islamic scholars endorsed the fatwa last month, describing Britons allied to Islamic State (Isis) cells as “heretics” and prohibiting would-be jihadis from joining the “oppressive and tyrannical” group in Iraq and Syria.


I would call the abusers of children in the christian faiths heretics too.

Many people worry about the scarf or hajib worn by some Muslim women. If you look back through history, it is clear religions have a “thing” about women’s hair. Remember the nun’s habits of the Catholic Church? I don’t see a lot of difference, personally. I wouldn’t wear one, but then I don’t believe in any gods. IF any god did create us, might be worth remembering that god actually gave humans hair, so what is the whole hiding hair thing about? More about men controlling women than religion, I think.

Why are people targetting women wearing a head covering? Is this even remotely reasonable?

I live in a house with five Muslims. I work closely with two Muslims……and a variety of other religions. Yes, there are some aspects of Islam I find nonsensical but there are just as many aspects of other religions I find nonsensical. The belief unbaptised children will spend eternity in limbo is very strange to me. Having to be “cleansed” after childbirth before being allowed back into a church is another oddity. I find many of the punishments of Sharia law totally unacceptable. I recognise social evolution takes time and requires education and in many parts of the world education is sadly lacking.

We know terrorists can strike. We saw the Twin Towers crumble, we remember the Bali nightclubs. Australia is not exempt. Yes, we need to alert, but we must not live in fear and start retaliating for something that hasn’t even happened. There is nothing to be gained from attacking innocent people merely because they look different or have a different faith. I also remember the Weapons of Mass Destruction which never actually existed, but served a political purpose at the time of their “invention”. We have a Prime Minister flagging in the polls – fear is a wonderful weapon and right now I fear that weapon is being wielded without due care or consideration of the possible outcome. Yes, we may well have death on the streets: bigots attacking innocent people because they wear a scarf. Driven by fear and ignorance.

As Daniel Baldino writes on The Conversation, First rule of fighting terrorists: don’t do their job for them.

Do we stay home? Do we avoid public transport or airports or crowded movie theatres or the AFL final series? Do we shun strangers with beards? Do we re-read (or re-find) our Howard government-issued fridge magnets for instructions while setting our mobile phones to automatically dial the terrorist hotline when our spider-sense tingles (sorry, I can never remember the number)?

This type of “alert and alarmed” scenario tends to lead in a couple of directions: it either creates wider public paranoia or greater public scepticism. Neither is particularly helpful for an effective, sustainable and clear-eyed counter-terrorism strategy.

There are often accusations that Islam is not a religion of peace and writings are taken out of historical context as “proof. Rarely does the same thing happen with verses of violence in the Bible.

Most often people inherit their religion (or lack of religion) from their parents and community. Someone born into a Roman Catholic family and community is brought up as a Catholic, they are not usually given the option to believe anything else. Someone born in Saudi Arabia is raised a Muslim. These accidents of birth don’t make people terrorists by virtue of their faith.

I have no problem with the terrorists being appropriately dealt with. We have very skilled police and security forces and believe they will take the precautions and actions required.

I am concerned that we, as a society, ensure we don’t convict innocent people in our minds and we protect them as valuable members of our community.

When members of our own government set bad examples, such as shown below, I worry.

Edited September 21, 2014:  The following great article appears on The Australian Independent Media Network.

Ban the Use of the Word “Jihadist” By the Media and Politicians

After all, how strange would the following sound:

Christian serial rapist, Wayne Kerr was taken in to custody today. Police acting on DNA evidence were able to identify Kerr as the man behind a number of attacks. The Premier praised the work of police in catching him and wanted to stress the vast majority of Christians weren’t rapists and found his actions abhorrent.

Footnote: This article was NOT written in consultation with anyone. Opinions expressed here are my own.

17 comments on “Terrorists are terrorists

  1. […] than the men in the current climate because the dress is so distinctive. Yes, there has been property damage, I know, but the women are easy targets for many.  Every day Australians visibly showing support, […]


  2. […] a police person’s day. I would not read anything into such a smile at all, HOWEVER given the other events happening in Australia, I can understand people jumping to the wrong […]


  3. A wonderful essay, Robyn. Balanced & thoughtful!


  4. Great writing, very balanced and logical.

    I’d just like to mention in regards to “I have been puzzled for some time over the attitude of Israel and the constant abuse of the Palestinians. Given what the Jews experienced during the Holocaust I cannot fathom how they can be so harsh to another ethnic group.”

    Obviously the abuse of the Palestinians isn’t a good thing but your comment does seem a bit one-sided considering that the Palestinians are also doing deplorable things. Perhaps the intensity with which Israel is approaching this is because there is no other Jewish country on this planet (there are several Muslim ones), so perhaps they’re fighting so hard not in spite of their Holocaust experiences but because of it. Maybe they fear that letting up on defending Israel will put them back in the same situation as pre WWII when they had nowhere to call home.


    • You might be right Nathan, but that doesn’t explain the virtual obliteration of any home for the Palestinians. It isn’t fair to create a home for one people then destroy the home of another people. There is something about that I’ve never come to grips with.


  5. An excellent essay.
    As a child of the 60’s, I know a little of the process of radicalisation, and it seems crystal clear to me that the actions of the federal governement ( and police ) are almost garanteed to reinforce radicalization. We are then left to ponder if they are just incompetent, or Machiavellian in intent. It’s sad when you have to hope that authorities are fools and nothing worse!!


  6. I could not agree with you more Robyn, well done. I think that its about time that we support all of the peaceful Muslims who clearly do not agree with anything that these terrorists are doing in the name of Islam.


    • Thank you Sandra. We seem to have unleashed the “ugly Australian” crowd in a big way for no benefit to anyone, least of all ourselves. Some of the behaviour may well do more to convince innocent people that the “infidels” are indeed as bad as the terrorists say than anything else. It is just terrible what some people are doing.


  7. every day hundreds of thousands of brave Muslim soldiers and police are fighting a front line battle against Muslim extremists, very rarely do our media or our politicians remind us that Muslims are also an essential ally in the fight against terrorists.


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